Глюки Вегаса...

[Axel]

Предлагаю поговорить о глюках и ошибках вегаса... и о том, как с ними бороться и лечить...
(а потом отправить это все разработчикам - чтоб учитывали в следующих версиях! )

[Дотошный Рыжик]

А поможет?

[Kanst]

99,9% глюков Вегаса от криво установленной системы и мешанины в кодеках.
Из остальных на сегодняшний день знаю только 3:
1. Вылет при использовании некоторых русских шрифтов (признан разработчиками, но не исправлен).
2. Если Рендер прерывается, то теперь просчитанная часть файла не сохраняется (разрабы молчат, то ли глюк, то ли новая фича).
3. В окнах настроек некоторых эффектов изначально скрыта полоса размещения ключевых точек (разрабы об этом знают, но не исправляли).

[Axel]

ага!
первое встречаю очень часто.
Самый простой вариант - определить на каких шрифтах вылетает - и их не использовать.
2. это если он прерывается пользователем путем нажатия на кнопку отмена. А если просто рубануть вегас в процессах - то файл остается.
3. Че т не встречал я таких эффектов... Это какие?

А у меня вот такие глюки еще есть...
Во первых не работает вывод 1394. Обидно.
Второе - косяки с интерлейсом.
HDV-видео сжатое из DV-проекта в MPEG2 720х576... дрожжит...
а если HDV из HDV-проекта сразу в MPEG2 720х576... титры и наложения съезжают со своих мест...

Главный глюк вегаса - это отстутствие предпросчета...
Порой тормозит аж на драфт-кватере...

кшмар!!!

[Kanst]

Во первых не работает вывод 1394. Обидно.

Разбирайся с платой 1394

Второе - косяки с интерлейсом.

= криворукость головы пользователя

HDV-видео сжатое из DV-проекта в MPEG2 720х576... дрожжит...
а если HDV из HDV-проекта сразу в MPEG2 720х576... титры и наложения съезжают со своих мест...

предыдущий ответ + надо тестить под конкретный случай - у других работает.

Главный глюк вегаса - это отстутствие предпросчета...
Порой тормозит аж на драфт-кватере...

Selectively prerender и Dinamic RAM preview
Что еще может быть нужно? Или как в Студии, чтоб всегда подсчитывал, мешая работать?

[Axel]

Разбирался. Не помогает. мож чего неправильно разбирал.
Пробовал с обычным 1394-контроллером, и пробовал с платой Pinnacle AV/DV.
В обоих случаях не удалось подать видео с таймлайна на внешний монитор.

интерлейс. HDV в DV. титры. дрожание.
Перепробовал все до чего руки дотянулись. Не помогает. Единственный вариант - сохраняю в некомпрессированный АВИ, а потом в другом уже проекте окончательно собираю. Или вообще доделываю в АфтерЭффекте.

Selectively prerender и Dinamic RAM preview
вот про эти штуки не понял. Эт они где?

[Axel]

нашел где...
разбираюсь...

[Kanst]

С Пинаклом не обязан работать.
С обычной 1394 карточкой может зависеть от разъема, в который воткнуто + настройки вывода смотреть надо.

По HDV в DV проекте где-то с полями портачишь. Или для исходника они неправильно выставлены (отсюда Вегас деинтерлейс неправильно делает), или в проекте деинтерлейс неправильно сделан,
reduce interlace flicker должен помогать однозначно.
Тем более, если HDV в DV проекте полюбому требует деинтерлейса и пересчета всего видеоряда, то может выставить проект Progressive, а поля создавать уже при финальном просчете в DV? А если MPEG2 для DVD, то и вообще можно без полей выгонять!
Ну и версия-то Вегаса, надеюсь, самая последняя установлена?

[Axel]

версия 7.0а 115

Карточка воткнута в PCI.
настройки вывода:
OHCI compliant IEEE 1394/DV
внизу обе галочки стоят...

reduce interlace flicker - это что? где найти?
У меня стоит smart deinterlace. но он мало помогает...
вообще как то непонятно работает.

Насколько я понимаю HDV изначально строится по верхнему полю, а DV - по нижнему. Видимо от этого и все мои проблемы.

[Kanst]

версия 7.0а 115

Вот откуда все твои проблемы!

Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 7.0e

Added support for editing files recorded with Sony AVCHD camcorders.
Added snapping to speaker locations for Film style panning.
Added support for multichannel audio in WMA/WMV files. When you add a 5.1 Windows Media file to a stereo project, the stereo downmix stream is loaded by default; when adding to a 5.1 surround project, audio will be added to separate tracks for the center, front, rear, and LFE channels.
Export to PSP® (PlayStation® Portable) now supports writing to the \VIDEO folder and includes a PSP full-screen template (supported in PSP® firmware 3.30 or higher).
Improved encoding quality in the MainConcept AVC/AAC renderer when using a constant bit rate.
Fixed a visual issue with rotated 2D images being scaled down very small.
Fixed a crash that could occur when using Ctrl+NumPad keys with the Surround Panner if no track had focus.
Fixed an issue with normalizing events that had a very small, silent looped portion.
The My Documents folder is now the default capture location for SDI and HDV captures.
Fixed an issue with rendered XDCAM IMX files to ensure they play back from an XDCAM deck.
Fixed an issue that could cause the wrong frame to be displayed on an external monitor when playing back outside of the active loop region.
Fixed a potential buffer overrun with some ASIO drivers.
Fixed an issue opening some Ogg Vorbis audio files.
Fixed a crash that could occur while trying to recapture offline XDCAM media files during project load.
Fixed a crash that could occur while replacing media with media with fewer audio channels.
Fixed a DV video capture issue that could cause captured NTSC clips to be misidentified as PAL.
Fixed a DV video capture issue that could prevent starting timecode from being detected.
Fixed an issue identifying the Plextor-755 drive for CD audio extraction.

Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 7.0d

Fixed a track-compositing issue introduced in Vegas 7.0c.
Fixed an issue with changing the audio channel in the Trimmer for media that is not in the project.
Fixed a conflict with the Raylight MXF reader.
Fixed a freeze that could occur when using MPEG or AVC media in the Trimmer while Preview on External Monitor was enabled.
Fixed JKL freeze.
Fixed a crash when multichannel media that is also in the project is added to the Trimmer and played.
Fixed a crash while opening a project that has media that was also in the Trimmer.
Fixed a crash when viewing properties for a surround DVD Camcorder audio event.
Fixed a crash that could occur when recapturing offline XDCAM media or changing XDCAM media outside of Vegas.

Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 7.0c

Added support for reading Sony 1080-24p HDV, such as that captured with the Sony HVR-V1U camera.
Added File > Import > Hard Disk Recording Unit to allow you to import video from a Sony HVR-DR60 hard disk recording unit.
Added HDV 720-24p and HDV 1080-24p project templates.
Added Video for Windows format rendering templates for 720-24p and 1080-24p intermediates.
Added Windows Media Video format rendering templates for 720-24p and 1080-24p video.
Added MPEG-2 format rendering templates for 1080-60i and 1080-24p MPEG-2 video for authoring Blu-ray™ discs using Blu-print™ software.
Added IMX-compatible project templates.
Added a MainConcept AVC/AAC template for rendering 640x480 AVC video for Apple iPod®.
Added a Length of GOPs setting to the Advanced Video tab of the Custom Template dialog for the MainConcept MPEG-2 plug-in. You can use this control to adjust the length of groups of pictures (GOPs) when the Use closed GOPs check box is selected.
Made improvements to reading and writing MXF-format files.
Made improvements to SDI external monitoring via AJA and DeckLink hardware.
Made improvements to Rec.709 color space handling for HD MXF and SDI formats.
Made improvements to VST audio plug-in scanning.
Fixed an issue that was causing degraded performance with the CineForm CFHD codec.
Fixed a bug that could cause plug-ins to disappear after being re-enabled.
Fixed an issue with naming markers in rendered MXF files.
Fixed an issue that prevented HDV capture from stopping after the end of the last clip.
Fixed a bug that could cause video event thumbnails to be displayed at nonquantized frame positions for AVI files that use a nonstandard frame rate.
Fixed a problem that could cause muted tracks to become unmuted when loading a project when automation was turned off.
Fixed a rounding issue that affected crossfade, composite level, and composite-level envelopes.
Fixed an issue with normalizing audio via scripting.
Fixed an issue that could cause media markers to be displayed incorrectly at velocity envelope points.
Fixed a bug that could cause incorrect frames to be used when reversing a subclip.
Fixed an issue with marker locations in AVI files rendered without audio.
Fixed an issue that could cause the Edit > Streams menu to disappear if the Edit menu had been opened with an empty event selected.
Fixed an issue that could cause audio peaks to be rebuilt unnecessarily when opening audio/video files in multiple Sony Media Software applications.
Fixed an issue that could cause Vegas to appear mirrored on certain operating systems.

Notable Fixes/Changes in Version 7.0b

The Insert Generated Music command now ignores the Import Audio at Project Tempo setting so Cinescore compositions are imported at actual length.
The Lock Envelopes to Events feature no longer includes envelope points after the last event. Previously, moving an event to another track could cause other envelope points to be removed.
For the Sony MXF format, a Progressive field order setting has been added for DVCAM and IMX rendering (via the Custom Template dialog for the MXF format). Also added 25p/30p detection when reading these files.
The MXF reader now supports source files larger than 4 GB.
Two-channel Broadcast Wave Format files are now imported to a single stereo track. In Vegas 7.0 and 7.0a, these files were imported to two tracks.
Added support for the Zoom slider on some Microsoft keyboards.
Event start times are now properly quantized if you drag media to the timeline when Options > Quantize to Frames is selected.
Fixed a problem that could cause gapping when adding certain audio plug-ins to a plug-in chain.
Fixed a problem that could occur when using the numeric keypad to move events across tracks.
Fixed a problem generating audio peaks for some HDV source files.
Implemented various HDV improvements, including stream-length matching, improved speed on non-SSE2 computers, and better handling of some HDV variants.
Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when using Copy and trim media with project with a project that contained uncompressed AVI files without audio.
Fixed a bug that prevented the Use color management feature (Preferences > Preview Device) from working correctly when using a Windows Secondary Display.
Fixed a problem that prevented multichannel/multistream files from creating multiple tracks when dropping files on the ruler.
Fixed a problem that prevented the Remove from project and delete files(s) command from working when right-clicking a file in the Project Media window.
Fixed a bug that prevented certain Targa (TGA) files from opening.
Fixed an issue that could cause a crash when accessing CD or DVD drives on computers with Blu-ray drives.
Fixed a problem that could cause a freeze under certain conditions when building peak files.
Fixed a problem that could cause a frame stutter when reading some Windows Media Video files.
Fixed a problem that prevented the rendered file from being added to a new track when using Render to New Track with HDV files.
Fixed a problem that could cause the application to stall when reading large MPEG-2 or OMA files.
Fixed a problem that caused Export Video to XDCAM Disc to fail if clips had been deleted from the disc.
Fixed a problem that caused user-supplied disc names to be ignored when importing XDCAM clips.
Fixed problems with loading and saving projects containing XDCAM information while the XDCAM Explorer was not enabled (Preferences > General > Enable XDCAM Explorer).
Fixed a problem that prevented markers from being saved when rendering MXF files.
Fixed a problem that prevented aspect ratio metadata from being saved when rendering MXF files.
Fixed a bug that prevented the left/right surround and LFE channels from being rendered when rendering 5.1 surround projects to AC-3 or ATRAC formats.
Fixed a problem with automating the Track EQ and Chorus plug-ins.
Fixed a problem with printing 24p video to a DV device.